Last of the Col-Hi Wildcats 1982
Last of the Col-Hi Wildcats 1982
#145 - Jeff Greenway Wins the Best Beard Award
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In our 40th year, I interview friends from my graduating class of 1982, The College High Wildcats. This class was the last graduating class of College High School before the name was changed to Bartlesville High School. Sooner High School and College High were combined into one school called Bartlesville High School.
In this episode, I visit with Col-Hi Wildcat Jeff Greenway, all the way from Scurry, TX. Jeff and I discuss the benefits of technology, his education at Oklahoma State University - Okmulgee, his dog Pugly and the land yacht he wishes he would have kept from High School.
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Scott Townsend:as a hard linoleum floor, two closets, two desks get on down the road you know nothing fancy about it at all. But nowadays they've got I don't know. concierge service. Pet Sweet. Sweet. I guess sweets man, it's good thing I didn't have one of those globally didn't have cell phones either back when I was in college.
Jeff Greenway:Yeah. I think technology takes as much as it gives. Yeah. You know, I love that I can get online and find things. I'm shopping for an ordered online and it's brought right to my front door. Yes. Look at all the look at all the negative aspects. It really takes as much as it gives that's all right. The third cup of coffee it gets me sometimes.
Scott Townsend:You're only on your third.
Unknown:Alright, tired. I get up organically like 830.
Scott Townsend:organically, so that means no alarm clock. No alarm
Jeff Greenway:clock. Ugly sometimes, you know jumps on my head.
Scott Townsend:ugly. Ugly.
Jeff Greenway:The Beast.
Scott Townsend:Oh, yeah. There's bugling. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great looking dog kind of dog is a he or she I believe
Unknown:that she is a Brussels Griffon go. rescue dog. Oh, yeah. And when I say rescue, I didn't know the shelter. She was running down farm to market 148. And I passed her and pulled over. And she came up to me and I'll put her in the back of my truck.
Scott Townsend:No, yeah.
Unknown:I'll put an ad in the local Facebook page. And the previous owners neighbor chimed in and didn't have much good to say about the previous owners saw it took the ad down. And she's been mine ever since just spoke.
Scott Townsend:That's cool. That's cool. I appreciate you doing this. And it's been it's been a while. It's been a minute.
Unknown:It has. So I wasn't very Go ahead. I think I spent a lot of time in my junior and senior year working. I was like going to a work program where I could get out of school after lunch.
Scott Townsend:Oh, yeah. That's cool. So where'd you work?
Unknown:I worked at Burger King. Oh, yeah. But a lot of people that went to sooner. Yeah. Pretty fun, pretty fond memories. And then they heard this team leader. There was well, he he got paid the extra 10 cents an hour to be crew chief or something. And he he'd make it punch out to go to the restroom or something. You know? Yeah. Just ridiculous. So class act. Yeah. He's probably the CEO somewhere now.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. So yeah. So what was life like back in high school as we are first off, were we talking Where were you? Where are you at right now?
Unknown:Well, I'm in mail wise I'm in scurry, Texas, but I'm actually closer to peel town. And peel town is the whole town of Clive Barker.
Scott Townsend:Peel town that is built in PE l
Unknown:Pel. It's a it's a.on a map?
Scott Townsend:It'll turn on
Unknown:a lowercase dot.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. The old town Texas. Yes. That's cool. Well, how'd you get the peel down?
Unknown:I while I was going to Oklahoma State tech, and oh my god, my parents moved from my dad's work down to Carrollton. Okay. And so I just packed up my dorm room worth of belongings and moved down here. And I got this terrible job. work there for about a year and a half on heavy equipment and dump trucks and stuff and then I They had openings at DTS Dallas transit system. I went to work there and I've been there ever since they were absorbed into Dart, Dallas Area Rapid Transit. Okay. So I got there in 1985. I got married. I got divorced. I had roommates and the roommates. Were not paying their bills on time. So I basically have to be lending them money every month until they paid me back. So I decided that I would get rid of that lease house and go. I had a friend that lived in Kaufman, Kaufman, Texas that had had his own house and I figured, well, a homeowner is surely going to pay his bills on time. Well, that was wrong. Like a week, a month, I wouldn't have any phone service. And back then we had dial up
Scott Townsend:internet. Yeah, you know, AOL
Unknown:is yes, what the comments are. So that didn't work at I ended up purchasing an Airstream Travel Trailer and parking it behind a shop where I worked part time auto shop and free for three years.
Scott Townsend:Silver Airstream the
Unknown:Yeah, the big one polished. It was a $1,500. Airstream and yeah. But that saved me a whole lot of money. I paid off my Sears card. And I was helping a friend find some property. And my my neighbor next door and he's now my neighbor. This is back in like 99 I was helping my friend locate some property and there was a plywood sign. And I thought it said 139 acres while I was with some other people going to the lively store to get some food. And I came back and looked at the site and it said 13.9 acres now I'm a friend's not going to go for that spot. I purchased it myself and bought a single wide trailer and parked it out front. And that's how I ended up here. That was in 1999. And I ended up getting remarried. My wife built a goat farm. She liked goats.
Scott Townsend:Goats. Goats are cool, especially baby goats.
Unknown:Oh, they're hilarious. I really missed the little goats. But they're high maintenance or they my wife ended up getting sick and passing on back in 2007.
Scott Townsend:I'm sorry to hear that.
Unknown:Yeah, she had I want to say pancreatic cancer or some some type of GI cancer. They never did determine a word where it originated. But it was six weeks, six weeks from diagnosis or passing. Wow. Really fast lane. That was not a not a fun time. No. You know, we got past it. But while we were married, we built a house and I guess maybe you can see this is the back corner of my house
Scott Townsend:now. Okay. And
Jeff Greenway:that's been paid for since Oh, seven.
Scott Townsend:There you go.
Unknown:I shouldn't be a millionaire. But I'm not living the dream, living the dream. Anyway, that's how I ended up and peeled down.
Scott Townsend:Okay. So going back to Bartlesville so did you grow up in Bartlesville? Are you from Bartlesville?
Unknown:Well, my dad was in the United States Army and we moved to Bartlesville when I was five years old. So I spent my entire school you know, primary education in Bartlesville. Yeah. Went to I believe it was south side and then McKinley and then central junior high. And then college high.
Scott Townsend:Yeah, yeah. Now I remember you in college. I
Jeff Greenway:graduated.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. Did you have an older brother?
Unknown:Well, that's interesting. I've got at the time I had three older brothers, and they all went to college high. So my that their reputation preceded me
Scott Townsend:I remember one of them and boys. Good thing was one of them and Boy Scouts. Yeah, Michael Greenway. Michael may be like, he's 20 months older than me. Okay. All right. I think that might be the one I remember. And Boy Scout
Unknown:troop. 99. Yeah, yeah.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. Good job. I don't think I can remember that.
Jeff Greenway:Yep. Yep.
Scott Townsend:So growing up and Bartlesville you guys went to school call high. You know what was like, Oh, it was called high like for you? What was high school like, the senior year in particular?
Unknown:I really at that time, I don't know if you remember. I used to stutter pretty bad. Well, I did I got I couldn't get out of paragraph. And then people will start offering me suggestions slowly and slow down. I never works. Yeah, it just takes longer. Yeah. But generally, I just went to class and then got off and went to Burger King. So
Scott Townsend:did you go ahead. fairly uneventful? Yeah. Who were some of your buddies you hung out with?
Unknown:Well, Chris Autry and Scott Janssen. Yeah. Mark Ashe. Jimmy Jackson. He was a year. He was a year ahead of us, but we used to. We used to walk to town and I don't know if it's still there. But it is the best hamburger joint there ever was the Washington County hamburger store. I don't know if you recall that. Yeah. It was a burger buffet. They they give you the bong and the the meat and the cheese and they had like a condiment buffet.
Scott Townsend:It was downtown
Unknown:is say it wasn't far from where the Osage theatre used to be. Yeah, I don't remember if it's on Johnstone are blocked off. But I lived on Johnstone. Oh, yeah. Yep. I still remember our old phone number. Yeah,
Scott Townsend:I remember my phone was up with that. Yeah, no, I can't I don't even know my wife's number right now. Yeah. I don't even know my wife's phone number right now. But I remember my phone number from well, yeah, in Texas where I grew up, Waco. We that's where I was born and stayed till second, third grade and seventh 725574. Still, I'll never forget it. I don't know why.
Unknown:I can't forget Michael. Michael McCracken. He was a he was a year behind us. So I guess he was a Bartlesville High School graduate. He he was one of our burger king friends and Millburn had, he was one of my burger king friends. And I'm just uncertain. There's others. Donnie McAllister, they actually live pretty close. And I remember probably when we were younger, we used to have water balloon fights. That was a lot of fun.
Scott Townsend:Who doesn't like a good water balloon fight? What kind of car did you get around in in high school?
Unknown:My first car was a 1968. Rambler American. Oh yeah. That's cool. At 199 cubic inch engine. One night I realized somebody was following me. So I didn't go straight home. I drove out towards circle mountain and I passed this this big Oldsmobile that was in front of me on you know, the gravel road. And this it just it was so gutless it didn't even spit out on gravel. But I'm not past this lady. I gotta head over. Well, when this car that was following me. I looked in my rearview mirror and there's these diagonal headlights. So they they goosed it and went off into the ditch. He got stuck, and then later found out I'm not going to mention any names, but I found out who it was. They were trying to find out where I live because my rather Michael was talking with one of these guys girlfriend. Yeah. So all that over somebody else's girl,
Scott Townsend:right? Yeah.
Unknown:Then I got a 74 duster. That's cool. And no, excuse me, there was a one in between there was a 1964 galaxie 500 XL. And I drove that and I believe my junior year.
Scott Townsend:That was a pretty big car, right? Oh, it
Jeff Greenway:was a Land Yacht. It
Scott Townsend:was okay. Yeah,
Unknown:I wish I still had it. Yeah, just leave it parked in the garage. Yeah, there were so much more than the $200 I got rid of it for I guess I blew the motor up in the transmission. So then I got a 74 duster. And that was a pretty cool car. I drove it. My senior year and then in college and then when I got down here, I bought an 85 Toyota that was my first new my first new vehicle ever. That's awesome. Still have it actually. Oh, yeah. How many hours putting up? You know a Chevy V six in it. No. Marlin crawler transmission. T case in in some of the well, they call it Rock. Rock crawling. So that was fine.
Scott Townsend:What how many miles are on it?
Unknown:Oh, I'll bet 400,000 400,000 I went through a couple of motors and changed. The track train was was all had all been replaced. Changed the gear ratios and all that kind of stuff.
Scott Townsend:Do yourself. Yeah. Oh,
Unknown:yeah. Oh my God, to do the engine that to do the dry line conversion. I took a week off of work. I had all my parts in a pile. I took a week off of work and I worked on that truck and I had to take one extra day because I didn't realize that the the lockout valve like went in upside down. So when I went to fire it up and put it in gear, it would just die. But that was I was pretty proud of that.
Scott Townsend:Yeah, really. 400,000 Miles that's pretty cool, actually.
Unknown:Yeah, that's estimated but it that's gone through two engines, two transmissions. axles. I don't know how many tires
Scott Townsend:really? Beat the car payment.
Jeff Greenway:No, absolutely. Again, I shouldn't be a millionaire but I'm not.
Scott Townsend:Well, what's slowing you down?
Jeff Greenway:I'm retired now. I'm just living a life. Okay. I'm just lucky I don't have to work at Autozone or something.
Scott Townsend:So after high school you graduated. What happened after high school?
Unknown:Well, I went to Oklahoma State. We discussed part of this. How I ended up here Okmulgee Oklahoma State tech. I guess I enrolled a little late to get the choice housing and ended up having a room in the ramps as they called it. It used to be a world war two military hospital. So there weren't any stairs anywhere. It was all ramps and my room was a closet. There was a bed pushed up against the back wall, desk and a wardrobe and enough room to stand it didn't have a doorknob, it had a deadbolt. Put your room key on your neck and walk around around the way to go get a shower and I was there for less than a week and actually got one of the good rooms of Twin Towers. But that was a humbling experience.
Scott Townsend:Is this in Stillwater or bookmobile game? Okay.
Unknown:It's a Oklahoma State University School of technical training. Yeah. And I hear it's a beautiful campus now. But that that all came after I was out.
Scott Townsend:Yeah, we just had. I was in Stillwater and you Now you just have there's two beds, a hard linoleum floor, two closets, two desks. Get on down the road, you know, then nothing fancy about it at all. But nowadays they've got I don't know, concierge service. Pet grooming and sweet.
Unknown:I guess sweet
Scott Townsend:man, it's good thing. I didn't have one of those. Glad we didn't have cell phones either back when I was in college.
Unknown:Yeah. I think technology takes as much as it gives. Yeah. You know, I love that I can get online and find things. I'm shopping for an ordered online and it's brought right to my front door. Yes. Look at all the look at all the negative aspects. It really takes as much as it gives.
Scott Townsend:on your Facebook page, you've got your avatar as Oh, don't tell me. It's Andy Griffith. No, I mean, it's show Ernest T bass has earned his T bass. How did you pick that?
Unknown:I was just kind of random. He's a he's a nut. Yeah. And I've never been wrapped very tightly either.
Scott Townsend:So it almost fits in almost fifth. Okay,
Jeff Greenway:I've never thrown rocks but
Scott Townsend:that was a good show. He was a good character. You had on face your Facebook page. I was going to just do research like I do on everybody. And there was one post you made about the some guy says I want to do X and the other guy Christian goes, go ahead and do it. And then the other guy goes but aren't you against x whatever x is? And the guy goes Yes. So that means you don't want me to do it and the guy in the Christian goes no, you can go ahead and do it if you want I just not for me. And it was a good this the guy that was wanting to do whatever was just trying to trying seems like he was just trying to draw him into an argument which seems to be apropos for today. Everybody wants to argue
Jeff Greenway:yeah
Unknown:I think a lot of people get into a disagreement if you don't celebrate their position. And you know, we can we don't have to celebrate something. We don't even have to like it. Right? I can keep my mouth shut there's just way too much. finger pointing and hand wringing in our society right now it's we're seriously divided. And it's not healthy.
Scott Townsend:I don't remember being like this when we were back in high school. But four years later, I guess as well called progress if you can call it
Jeff Greenway:Yeah, I don't want to delve too deep into politics. No. Has as your audience just hang up right now.
Scott Townsend:It's some beard you got I think you win the award for best beard. As a guest on fastest, at least long, longest. Yeah.
Unknown:It's funny the things you find to do when you're retired.
Scott Townsend:Let's never had
Unknown:a really long beard. I had hair down to my belt. After I after I got out of college, I just let my hair grow. And we weren't allowed to have beards because we had to be able to fit a respirator. I had a little I had a little Fu Manchu or whatever. And I was working at my part time job. And I was crawling on a creeper. I was crawling under a car creeping under a car and my ponytail wrapped up in the creeper wheel. Oh, like three times. I was stuck like Chuck. You know the wheel wouldn't turn. My weight is on it. So I managed to wiggle out and I had to grab my hair and the creeper and pull it apart so after that a sport a buzzcut for several years easy low maintenance. Yeah, believe it don't know why don't ally ally my hair grow long.
Scott Townsend:You gotta do stuff like that every once awhile, you know just just to do it. Yeah. And high school what? Do you remember any of your classes that any classes stand out that you enjoyed or any teachers that you remember that you had some kind of an impact on you?
Unknown:I remember Mr. Redman. He was right. He was one of the coolest teachers speech. Speech class. I believe it was Redman. I'm gonna look it up here. That that might have been like Well, let's see here. That might have been Junior High.
Scott Townsend:Oh, and because wasn't touchstone, the speech? Teacher in college?
Unknown:Who I don't know. Ah, here's here's an interesting story. Who was the English literature teacher?
Scott Townsend:Simmons?
Jeff Greenway:Male or female? Male? Yeah, I
Scott Townsend:think it was Simmons.
Unknown:Okay. In that class, I can't remember who all was in my group. But I had to do a salute synopsis for A Midsummer Night's Dream.
Scott Townsend:Oh, yeah. And
Unknown:I had a 20 minute presentation on a play that I'd never read. I went to I went out the night before and got CliffsNotes and I had five note cards. And I just had little no cards about the characters and somehow I got up for 20 minutes. Did not stutter. I blacked out. I don't remember the presentation. But I got a standing ovation. That was really, really bizarre. Wow.
Scott Townsend:Congratulations. That is bizarre.
Jeff Greenway:I guess that's what I learned how to be yes. Talking on your feet.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I could have done that. And what kind of music do you listen to back then? Let's let's the the band that stands out to you thinking back. 82
Unknown:my favorite band at the time was Pink Floyd? No. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I remember when the wall came out. I was like, first in line and you know, waiting for it to come out the next day. Yeah. And
Scott Townsend:where would you go to buy a record like that here in town?
Unknown:Oh, there was a place across town that sold sold records. I don't remember the name of it. To be honest, but it was not far from I want to say the pin theatre. Okay, theater.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. Yeah. You know that you mentioned the Osage Theatre, which of course is not there anymore. There's just a hole there where it used to be. I remember the last movie I think I saw there. I think it was a sword in the stone or something like that. That had a balcony didn't. Yes, yeah. Which is really cool. It's too bad. It's still not around. You know, those little theaters are really cool.
Unknown:I don't think it was large enough to be profitable.
Scott Townsend:Yeah, it was pretty small. Actually. Yeah. But you know, as a as a little kid, I thought it was huge. But you know, looking now, looking now at the space that it was in you're thinking, man, they got a theater in there.
Unknown:Well, now you got these cinema plexes that have a dozen small theaters. So they're playing, you know, a dozen movies at a time. So I guess the fact that they can only play one movie at a time was a factor.
Scott Townsend:Right? Yeah, it wasn't even a double. Yeah, it was just a one screen. One screen thing depend was was the pin was one screen. What not, and Islam was this one twin? Yes, yes. The pin was one big screen. Yeah.
Unknown:I'll bet there's there's one there that's got eight, eight to 12
Scott Townsend:Mm. Huh?
Unknown:Theater. Interestingly, the Jaycees before they tore it down, the Jaycees had had a haunted house event. And a friend of mine and I worked worked one of the one of the displays for that it was it was pretty fun.
Scott Townsend:And it's cool. So any sports any any extracurricular activities? Your senior year or?
Unknown:No, no sports. What? When I was 12, I fell, I wrecked my bicycle and had to get a blood clot removed from my head. So my parents didn't let me play any full contact. Oh, yeah. And when you're 12 if you don't get into it, then I mean, that's that's a, your formative years right there. If you you know, if you're getting into sports. Yeah, I missed that.
Scott Townsend:You think back to high school? Knowing what you know now and I ask everybody this same question is, you know, your you see yourself if you could go back in time and see yourself walking across graduation stage, and what would you tell yourself? Knowing what you know, now? What advice would you give your 18 year old self?
Unknown:Ah, don't let people bother you. Don't Don't let your feelings get hurt. Because they probably don't mean it. Young people are just there's, like the, the, the ringleader, and then a bunch of followers. So if they're laughing at you, you know, they're not all bad. Kids. They're just following.
Scott Townsend:Yeah. How did you you, you haven't set a setter during this interview. So how did you get over that?
Unknown:I have no idea. It went away as mysteriously as it began. Oh, yeah. Well, that's good. I still do from time to time if I'm really really tired.
Scott Townsend:Oh, yeah. You know,
Jeff Greenway:but everybody does from time. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Scott Townsend:I do. I do all the time. Yeah.
Unknown:It wasn't such a bad thing. If you learn how to deal with stuff. Like, if I that's probably why I'm such a clown. Because if people are laughing at you, and somehow you can turn that around, where they're laughing with you. Right, right. And I kind of kind of turned into quite the clown.
Scott Townsend:No, I totally agree with that. I've basically said the same thing to him before people can start laughing at you if you can get them laughing with you. That's that's better. Yeah. It was they're
Unknown:still laughing at you. I could fool myself.
Scott Townsend:Yeah, self deprecating humor goes a long way. At least it does with me.
Unknown:I remember Mr. Bergner this this might have been junior high. But Mr. Bert used to call me rude, crude and ignorant.
Scott Townsend:Now that's College High. Okay, okay. Yeah.
Jeff Greenway:Yeah, I was I was rude, crude and ignorant.
Scott Townsend:Why would he say that?
Jeff Greenway:Because I was being a clown. No. I I'd have these little quips that that he didn't like Mr. Green while you're rude, crude and ignorant. That's not gonna help. You're making it worse.
Scott Townsend:And teachers only knew
Unknown:I remember Mrs. Branch. Frost like she had this big black dictionary. You know, German to English, English to German. Yeah. And she overheard me using of vulgar term. And she, she got in the right in the wrong context. So he she claimed that I said something that I didn't At anyway, I got kicked out of her class. And I ended up in Mr. Brewers. I believe it was some kind of business class coach, Coach Brewer. And he came to me one day and explained to me that what everything that Mrs. Branch told him about me was false. I was a good student. And I was dumbfounded, but you have to remember that all three of my older brothers went to her class. So she was already prejudiced against another Greenway coming through there. Their reputation preceded me
Scott Townsend:Are they all troublemakers? I guess
Jeff Greenway:we are where we are. I wouldn't say troublemakers. Yeah. Spirited I'd hate to characterize it.
Scott Townsend:Should I just leave it at that?
Jeff Greenway:You are still alive?
Scott Townsend:Gotta be careful. It's just Oh, man. Well, Jeff, it's been good to catch up with you. I that's been that's been Wow. It's been 40 years and I remember in high school. Like pretty much I remember everybody or I don't remember everybody but I remember I remember you there and yeah, I was. I don't mean I didn't have much interaction with a lot of people. But it's like I can see you walking down the hall but that's about it. You know, I don't think we ever interacted or anything. Um, I think we had a few conversations probably but anyway, well, it's good to catch up with you. I appreciate you taking the time and doing this. I tell you what, any last words to the Wildcats out there listening watching.
Unknown:Oh, man, he put me on the spot. Do the best you can this. This economy will will get better.
Scott Townsend:There you go. The economy will get better. I believe it. All right. Well, Jeff. Yeah, thanks a lot. Once again for your time. Yeah, it was good luck to do it. I didn't care. Stay on don't hang up yet. So for Scott Townsend for Jeff Greenway. This is Scott Townsend. Thanks for watching and listening to the last of the call. Hi, Wildcats. 1982 podcast. Have a great day. And we'll talk to you later.
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